Wouldn’t it be funny if Rona looks up Zai in the senserealm and he turns out to be a fourteen-year-old? or a crotchety old geezer? We don’t know what any of these folks are like in real life.
Only people with a good understanding of how subrealm works can change their appearance in it significantly, though; understanding that, by all indications, Zai seems to lack.
I disagree. I DO think that you need a significant understanding of subrealm to change your appearance, yes, But I think what you natively appear as is your self-image, not your self. For most of us, those two are the same, or at least similar, but for some people the two are dramatically different.
And there are a lot of folks with great talent or lots of discipline in some areas who don’t live in a particularly enlightened manner. I think Wolf has raised an interesting point. We tend to rely on external appearances a lot, but they may have nothing to do with the person inhabiting that fleshy shell. If Rona appears in the Subrealm as she does in the Senserealm, maybe that implies something genuine about her nature.
I don’t think it’s your self-image that your appearance is tied to, though… it’s your belief in your physical form. After all, Perse’s self-image is of a man, but it took her years to develop the ability to project that, rather than her physical female form… because she had to overcome part of the imprisoning beliefs that senserealm impose upon us.
This is related to the fact that Rona got tired climbing the walls at first, until Takami showed her how to let go. She believed that’s how the world worked, so that’s how subrealm worked for her… something like that. At least, that’s how I read it.
Fair enough. But I think you are thinking of self image as something too easily changed. It is actually rather tricky to change how you think of yourself. And to expect to see someone else EVERY time you see a mirror. This is why I said our self image often greatly resembles are physical one. Except in unusual circumstances a person’s self image is mighty close. I suspect as much as Perse did not feel comfortable in her physical skin, it was still what she expected to see when she looked in a mirror. Or did for a long time.
Beyond that, I concede the point.
Finally! 😀
Finally what?
hehehe, the wedgie of doom!
What is his problem?
Finally bad-taste-costume-guy gets served. 😛
Wouldn’t it be funny if Rona looks up Zai in the senserealm and he turns out to be a fourteen-year-old? or a crotchety old geezer? We don’t know what any of these folks are like in real life.
Only people with a good understanding of how subrealm works can change their appearance in it significantly, though; understanding that, by all indications, Zai seems to lack.
I disagree. I DO think that you need a significant understanding of subrealm to change your appearance, yes, But I think what you natively appear as is your self-image, not your self. For most of us, those two are the same, or at least similar, but for some people the two are dramatically different.
And there are a lot of folks with great talent or lots of discipline in some areas who don’t live in a particularly enlightened manner. I think Wolf has raised an interesting point. We tend to rely on external appearances a lot, but they may have nothing to do with the person inhabiting that fleshy shell. If Rona appears in the Subrealm as she does in the Senserealm, maybe that implies something genuine about her nature.
I don’t think it’s your self-image that your appearance is tied to, though… it’s your belief in your physical form. After all, Perse’s self-image is of a man, but it took her years to develop the ability to project that, rather than her physical female form… because she had to overcome part of the imprisoning beliefs that senserealm impose upon us.
This is related to the fact that Rona got tired climbing the walls at first, until Takami showed her how to let go. She believed that’s how the world worked, so that’s how subrealm worked for her… something like that. At least, that’s how I read it.
Fair enough. But I think you are thinking of self image as something too easily changed. It is actually rather tricky to change how you think of yourself. And to expect to see someone else EVERY time you see a mirror. This is why I said our self image often greatly resembles are physical one. Except in unusual circumstances a person’s self image is mighty close. I suspect as much as Perse did not feel comfortable in her physical skin, it was still what she expected to see when she looked in a mirror. Or did for a long time.
Beyond that, I concede the point.
Rectal exams: they shut you up